Kate's Secret (1986)

The first time I watched this movie was probably fifteen years ago during a very dark period of my life in which I definitely would've killed myself if I were not a complete coward and very afraid of experiencing any physical pain even with the promise of a humiliating death immediately following it. This movie spoke to me, someone who has never suffered with an eating disorder but definitely a ton of other equally concerning disorders, on a deep and visceral level. My emotional intelligence then was nonexistent (as opposed to the 5% that I currently possess now) so my primal, immediate reaction was to mirror Kate's behavior in the film and get up and make myself a huge bowl of food to shove down my face in commiseration with her while watching. Probably it's normal to watch this movie and your singular, primary reaction is no superior to that of a cookie monster's. I just started shoveling my face with food when prior to watching the movie the impulse to engage in such behavior did not exist. This experience became an immediate core memory and has stuck with me like the scar of demonic posession ever since.

I think it's interesting how we start off the movie seeing Kate and her man asleep in bed through a mirror. We kind of get a voyeur's POV but also is the movie right away telling us this film will be a mirror into our soul's while watching? Quite possibly it was that for me.

Kate wakes up and her immediate thought is that she has to go running. Like no protein bar no water no morning poop - nothing, just hop up out the bed and turn her swag (disordered behavior) on! Her man is grabbing and snatching at her like a gorilla trying to get her to stay like hello your wife has a problem this isn't a cute couple moment she is diseased and you need to relax with all that manhandling

Kate's man somehow convinces her to eschew running and stay in the bed with him for some morning nooky action. Kate goes into the bathroom to brush her disgusting teeth but while in there weighs herself on the scale and she weighs like 2lbs but it's two pounds too many and she immediately nixes the plan to stay in and comes out in her running suit, telling her man it's a raincheck on the tumbling around in the bed. But my thing is, couldn't she get the exercise from having sex with her man? Don't drag me I know literally nothing about that fitness and calorie deficit life, stuff like that exists on a totally different planet from the one I'm living on, but she'd get like really sweaty wrestling around in the bed with her man, no? Maybe he's more the slow and lumbering, going down with a sinking ship type idk

Kate's mom is coming to visit with the family, I think for Jack's party. Before we even meet her we know that Kate's mother is a stressor for her. I like the way it's played, like we just have a brief moment where Kate asks her husband to call her mom to postpone her trip and the husband says for how long and Kate says something like four years lol. It's just really quick but tells us a lot in that small amount of time. Even when the mother appears she's not just some braying, abrasive hag, it's played more subtly but still it's very obvious she's nitpicky and critical and it brings great stress on her daughter

Kate's mother says something like "Where's my little chubster" or "Where's Blimpy McFatass" or "Where's the Rotund Rita" or something about her grandchild/Kate's daughter. I can't remember exactly what she said but it was an ~affectionate~ nickname basically referring to Becky (?) being plump. Kate says her daughter's not a chubster anymore, she no longer allows her to have sugar. Not to be overly woke or extreme but is this not child abuse? I think some sugar is probably fine here and there? Like it's a kid, they can't have a lil sweet treat from time to time? Mind you, we see that Kate gives her daughter juice (which she waters down, but still) later on which is filled with sugar? Also she does not restrict carbs itself just "sugar". It's giving outdated ideas about, well, basically everything.

Kate's mom says it's ridiculous that she does not allow her daughter to eat sugar, to which Kate responds essentially that she will enjoy not being fat more than she will enjoy being able to have sugar. I think her daughter is like eight, so, no? That isn't true...

Kate's mom says I let you have sugar when you were a kid and look how great *you* turned out! :)

Ma'am, your daughter has a severe eating disorder and it's lowkey highkey your fault, so, not too much on that...

Oh, yay, Kate just nabbed the mint tea her mother really wanted. I'm glad it was in stock :)

Kate grabs a package of cookies and starts gobbling them down like a wildebeest in the middle of the store directly in front of wherever security cameras would likely be. I was confused why Kate stood right there where likely a security camera was being concealed to eat that stolen food like a rabid little badger. Did they not have security cameras in the eighties lol I was so perplexed. And she looked so insane too like imagine someone in the security room watching you gobble down like it's your first day back on the surface after scurrying around blind in the tunnels for the past twenty years. I'm probably wrong and there wasn't any cameras and she was eating directly in front of the mirror maybe to watch to see if anyone was coming around to catch her? Idk

The bingeing scenes are so good, honestly they are so tense and scary lol like what is she doing it's honestly more terrifying and unsettling than anything you see in most horror movies today

Please, why are we so close up to it? *shivers* But honestly me with almond sticky buns :(

When I first watched this I didn't catch that she had gobbled down this entire package of cookies in like a minute in the middle of the store. So harrowing but also really disgusting. I'm not even prissy and I'm #TeamBigBack, like I like to EAT, but watching her shove all that food down is so sickening. Very effective!

Me but with strawberry milk

Here she go bingeing in front of security cameras again. Does she want to be watched/caught? It must be my "theory" that she is using the mirror to make sure no one is coming, because I think any other time Kate binges she tries to hide it and doesn't want anyone to see so idk. But can we talk about her choking back an entire carton of chocolate milk after sucking down that entire package of cookies? Mind you her daughter gets watered down juice and has to have like nasty ass celery sticks or some shit for snack time like it's just interesting to me

Why does Kate not get her mom the mint tea? Was it like a punishment for her mom immediately being kind of a cunt as soon as she stepped off the plane lol? Or after Kate binged did she just want to immediately leave? Like was she embarrassed I guess? I'm leaning towards the punishing her mom theory. Like she does not like that lady idc what y'all say or what the movie tries to push. If Kate can't experience joy than neither can her mom, it's that simple. But probably I'm wrong lol

She looks exactly like her dad, a copy of a copy...

Kate is at the drink bar (?) at her fitness club. I don't know anything about gyms or fitness places, I only know from that one episode of Seinfeld where Elaine thinks that JFK Jr. is a member of her health club lol like that is my only reference for fitness places, so I guess Kate's fitness club has a bar that sells juice and Kate asks the himbo bartender how come they don't list the calories for their juice selection and he says nobody would ever order juice if they did and then Kate's friend/trainer comes over and is like order a water, it has fewer calories and she says it as a joke but is it a joke? She can't have a little juice? Like quite literally y'all have either just exercised or are about to exercise? Isn't having something with a little sugar or electrolytes better than just plain water, to like, replenish ur nutrients, help with your blood sugar or whatever? Idk but it made me dislike the trainer right away immediately

Everything the trainer says and does is so unlikable to me. I wonder if she's playing like a very specific sort of person. I guess very body-obsessed Californian type of woman? God, she was so irritating, but really everyone in this movie is just awful and/or super shallow and wow I'm glad I did not grow up during this time because I would've definitely succeeded with a self-deletion if I was driven to madness over the notion that everyone is going to look at me like I'm fucking Charles Manson or something if I decide to have a simple cup of (non-diluted!) juice. My god, the vibes are so dark-sided, but a pretty cool window into what things might've been like maybe just in general for the eighties but specifically for say Californians of a certain income level. And I know, it's like who cares about privileged yts and their problems and, well, me - I do. This is like going to the zoo for me, like I want to gawk at the anorexic giraffes - thank you, strangely-shocking TV movies from the eighties!

???? Kate's husband is an attorney. I think his partner at the firm is a woman named Monica, a gorgeous single career woman whom Kate is wildly jealous of for all of those reasons listed and honestly as we see later deservedly so lol. So what does Belafonte Jr say in response to Kate's wariness and jealousy in regards to Monica? She tells Kate that she's seen Monica's body and suggests Monica's naked form would give a person nightmares?? How unprofessional. Is she saying she trained Monica at one point and maybe saw her naked in the saunas or something? Why are you talking about anyone's naked body but especially someone who might've been a client? It was so tacky and disgusting, I was stunned. I get the character is supposed to be like some sort of superficial gossip but it was hard to watch. Though I think it really helps to establish the tone for the toxic environment Kate is totally drowning in. Her "bestie" is one of the most vain, empty-brained idiots on the planet, like of course Kate is sticking her fingers down her throat with that as a major influence in her life, and let's not even talk about all the other horrible, unhelpful influences (we quite literally will like in two seconds)

Kate's Husband (I 4get his name? Chad? Chadley? Drake.. Kevin...JACK!), Jack, I think is getting a promotion or something at his job *doesn't know how lawyer stuff works voice* and so there are going to be not one, but TWO parties celebrating this come up. Kate's sole, singular focus when we meet her in the story is getting down to a size 4 (1980s size 4) to fit back into the dress she wore when Jack had his graduation from law school I guess like fifteen or so years ago. Huh?? Does your ass not have like anything else going on? No interests or hobbies or academic pursuits? No just losing weight to fit into likely an ugly ass dress from yesteryear to make your goofy husband who is not even complex or interesting "proud". Kate is so sad to me, it's honestly breathtaking how empty her life is

Some people on the beach who aren't the size of an exhumed corpse run by Kate and Belafonte Jr on the beach. Kate basically says if I ever end up like that just shoot me in my motherfucking head. We don't really see what the people look like as it's just a quick glimpse of them in the background so I tried to rewind to get a closer look and see if they were like huge beached whales (it would still be problematic for her to comment on them if they were lol) and they were just like...normal sized people?? How alarming, but I love these completely deranged little moments that give us an incredibly disturbing snapshot into Kate's corroded psyche <3

Lil Miss Gossip Girl just randomly volunteers to Kate incredibly sensitive information about a client of hers, an actress who had an abortion to look slim in a scene for a film she was working on. She's all like "I can't tell you who..." then gestures up the shore and is like oh but she lives about a mile up the road as if Kate couldn't figure out who she's talking about if she wanted. This character is demented and it's like not even cute or charming what the fuck is your problem telling people's business like this? And here's Kate's ass eating it right up as if Miss High Top wouldn't be spilling her lil bulimia business if she had that tea, and she does find out later that Kate is suffering with an eating disorder and it's so easy to see this character gossiping about Kate to other friends and clients of hers like she is so evil but they maintain her as Kate's bestie throughout the entire film even after things completely deteriorate and it's so odd

The messy trainer starts spilling tea to Kate about a client of hers who binges and purges and Kate has the audacity to sit there with her vomit crusted mouth open in feigned shock GIRL

Kate won't even let her little daughter have cake at a party. Kate denying joy to every woman/girl in her life is depraved but probably pretty common. But like, what is a little kid supposed to eat at a party? I don't even think the daughter was invited now that I'm remembering, I think she called to ask her dad to save her some cake and Kate was straight up like SHE IS BANNED FROM CAKE. Like what a looney

So the messy trainer just saunters in and kisses Kate's man full-on on the lips. But we're worried about Monica (she definitely should be worried)? Oh okay

The messy trainer doing what she does again: being messy. Tell me why she is randomly just volunteering info to Kate's man about some random housewife she knows getting liposuction. Why is that anyone's business? And Kate's man doesn't even seem interested in the gossip what is the point of this messy ass trainer? Literally STOP TELLING PEOPLE'S BUSINESS? But honestly I'm just guessing it's kind of the movie's way of showing all these negative influences surrounding Kate and how it all weighs on her and helped to foster her issues. I think that's what the movie is doing. But Miss Gail... she gotta go, I fear. Take her lord, she's ready!

Kate...this hairdo - it's a chop, mama. Look at me contributing to her issues, but be serious now! Gail will run her mouth about any and everyone but will sit there and lie in Kate's face talkin bout oh you look cute. Girl say it with your chest the way you been telling everyone else business! Tell that lady she's lookin' an old country fool and damn sure aint showin' up Miss Cosmopolitan Spicy Mamas Monica - be a real friend FOR ONCE! smh

Kate expresses insecurity concerning the guests (Monica) coming to the party, how they're all accomplished but Kate is "just" a housewife. The only thing Gailbot can spew is some garble about how Kate might have zero accomplishments and absolutely nothing going for herself outside of being a mom and married to a man, but at least she'll be the best looking one there in shorts, which, like, isn't even true. I'm sure Gail, who is quite literally a psychotic fitness freak, and Da Hottie Femme Fatale Monica, would best the frumplestilskin housewife in shorts any day of the week. Why lie? Gail is so evil it's honestly comical and while I do think the movie is like intentionally making it very obvious how shallow and simple she is, I still don't feel they completely understand the type of character they have on their hands like it's honestly stunning

Gail being messy and talking shit about Kate's tacky momma. But how does Kate not understand that if Gail will run her mouth about everyone else, she damn sure is running her mouth about you when you're not around? Probably on a subconscious level she definitely does and that's a huge motivator for her behaviors.

Lmao, Kate's momma throwing it right back @ Gail, talking shit to Kate about how it's okay for Gail to look a fool at the party becuz she is "just" an exercise trainer, but Kate is the distinguished wife of a white man attorney which apparently is really special I guess. But here we go with another woman kind of cattily talking shit AND being extremely superficial and making Kate feel extremely insufficient and like she's not good enough. And Kate is totally responsible for her own feelings etc but I think it's a good way of showing how she's inundated by so much shallow, dark ass energy and can't just breathe and be herself without so much judgement and all these rules but, like, who set this system up? This woman is suffering but if she could thrive in this toxic environment, if others like her could, they would have no issue with it at all.

Waiiit this dress is so cute *not getting the point voice*. Tho...potentially definitely problematic. #ucan'tbewearingthatwhitelady

This scene where Kate was trying to zip up her dress was triggering as hell. She was trying to yank that zipper up so hard and sucking in her stomach with such intensity I thought she was going to rip the dress and spontaneously combust.

Look at the ugly fit she comes down in after she can't fit into the blue dress. Girl what is that? She coulda just worn the black dress underneath no one told you you needed to put on a shawl. She makes me tired...

Why is Kate's mama being messy and bringing drama? Talking about I think Monica is tryna fuck on your man. While that's true, why is she even bringing this up to Kate at what's supposed to be a nice and casual daytime party at the house? Like that sort of drama is for a nighttime velvet dress and champagne flute type of affair, this is a lil daytime get together where Gail is wearing literal gym clothes and people are drinking out of fucking plastic cups, like read the room

Girl. His wife is RIGHT THERE. Chile I wish Kate really coulda squeezed into that blue dress, she would've been able to show Big Mon up a little (tho she'd still lose). Ah well, life sucks I guess *needs to be killed and murdered voice*

Kate frantically pushing that disgusting cake she's gonna binge later in between her husband and Big Monica flirting with each other. Like girl just give up

Who the fuck is Portia? De Rossi? I thought she was just a fake lawyer on Ally McBeals...

Kate's man was giving some boring ass speech and thanked his work wife Monica and here comes Kate's desperate, interfering ass momma making it awkward talking about DONT 4GET UR WIFE! Girl ur embarrassing ur child, no wonder Kate such a damn wreck all the time

Kate literally about to jump out of her skin and scream and explode when her man was trying to nuzzle on her neck. I think she was just going into a panic and was only focusing on getting her binge on at the moment but it made me curious about her feelings towards him. We see later that Kate has abandonment issues and that, along with other moments, makes me wonder if the marriage for her is more about Kate trying to prove something (to others and herself) as well as establishing a base and security for herself (which she lacked in childhood) and this is not necessarily a marriage that primarily came together due to love/natural chemistry. Not sure and movie never really addresses it so I'll guess we'll never know :')

I think Kate's mom schemes to get Gail to take Monica home after the party, so there is no chance of Jack and Monica being alone together, but Kate is binge-focused only right now and wants him out of her hair so suggests that Jack take Monica home instead, and he genuinely looks surprised like girl you know Miss Spicy Mamas is going to try to rim me as soon as we leave this house, right? But Purge Over Everything, I fear :/

Girl, please shut up

This food spread looks so disgusting. Aint no way white people are real

Me every time any character in the movie speaks or does anything

Um... Kate's mom starts admonishing her for not preventing Jack from taking Monica home after the party. Essentially she's telling her you're not doing enough to make sure your man is not fucking on another woman and it's like...okay. And then it's all based around this belief that a woman is nothing if she doesn't have a man. The mom was left by her man when Kate was very small I think and seemingly she's spent all those years alone and she is very fearful that the same thing will happen to Kate if she does not fight hard enough to keep her man interested/happy. It's all very disturbing, like I wish we could understand having a man is not the be all/end all especially when you are killing yourself just to "keep" them. Not saying that's necessarily what Kate is doing or why she has an eating disorder but I feel like her mom would be cool with Kate severely harming herself as long as that meant her man stayed and she didn't have to be alone...

Girl...

The bingeing scenes are so grotesque it truly gives Horror Moment. I kind of enjoyed them because I felt like I was watching something I definitely shouldn't be seeing which might not be the point of the movie or the scenes so I don't know how I feel about that reaction lol

Omg... I wonder how Meredith Baxter filmed these scenes, it's so gross. I'm guessing she kind of just kept mashing the food in her mouth but obviously not actually chewing/swallowing. It's so fascinating in a morbid way.

Why does Kate become such a sloppy, manic disaster when she's bingeing? Is that part of the disorder? Instead of doing even one second of research on bulimia and its effects on people what if this movie was my sole reference point and I never do anything to change that or educate myself further? :)

Not Kate throwing the dogs under the bus after her binge-out. Girl stop lying on them that was YOU!

It's hard for me to really understand where the mom is coming from or what's going on with her internally even when we're provided a little tea about her history with Kate. Most of the time I chalk up her viewpoint and behavior to the fact she was probably born when Moses was still alive so any outdated view there is, she has locked down real heavy. Sometimes I question if she truly even loves or cares for her daughter (is her mother role only a surface-level performance?), but little moments like these where she's saying she worries about Kate and her grandchild (doesn't mention Chad or whoever), I honestly believe that's where her heart lies, that she's coming from a true place, it's just her genuine concern comes out...Like That.

Kate got this little girl on the floor with her doing legxercises *doesn't know the names for exercises voice*. Can you take her to the park or skating rink or something smh. And here her child is asking Kate if it's harder to be smart or pretty, rhetorically, I think, because she sees her mom killing herself to keep her looks up for her man but doing quite literally absolutely zero zilch squat nothing nada damn thang to nurture her brain and intellect. These kids pick up on everything and of course the goofy parents are in their own little horror shows and aren't even thinking about what they are seeing and absorbing

Now why tf is Kate's old ass mama coming up to her and talking about how she thinks a woman that SHE BELIEVES IS TRYING TO FUCK HER DAUGHTER'S HUSBAND is a superwoman? Why is she glazing this harlot who she thinks is trying to snatch up her son-in-law???? Is this her way of trying to scare/motivate Kate into stepping her pussy up to match Monica's so she doesn't lose her meal ticket? Because after this she is trying to push Kate into dressing up more sexily for her date night with Bradford or whatever his name is. What kind of mother talks to her daughter like this? Talking about step your sexy up so you don't lose Mr. Attorney to a Real Bad Bitch (Monica). It's giving Kris Jenner. Like what kind of mother are you? But it's not this black and white thing where she seems totally evil, we see that she is truly worried her daughter can't meet the expectations of the Wife of a Superstar Attorney role or whatever and is ~just trying to help~. Why not believe in your child? Mind you the goal here is just: Being a Wife and Continuing to Keep Being a Wife. If her mother is going to be so creepy and aggressive and weird I wish she were doing it to prod her daughter into being like a surgeon or starting her own business or something, like this is just sad

Lmao???? Kate freaks out after Ted (?) cancels their special date night. She immediately locks in for another night of terrifying bingeing and bolts out of the house to buy a bunch of ice cream and as she's hurrying from the store with her loot a man is chasing after her saying "Ma'am you 4got the spoon 4 your daughter that this ice cream is totally for and not just for you to binge and then vomit up immediately after!!". Why the fuck is Kate giving unprompted excuses for the binge food she buys? She does this in the next scene following this when she pulls up to the drive-thru of a fast food place and places a large order, telling the dude at the window who definitely doesn't give a shit that the food is a "surprise" for her daughter. Literally no1 asked or cares? I guess it's part of her trying to conceal her disease but if I'm the daughter I'm like why am I in it lol and then she also threw dirt on the innocent dogs' reputation earlier too like girl leave me OUT OF IT!!

Girl, BE CALM. Can you at least pull out of the drivethru first? But honestly me

SOMEBODY HAS TO WORK AROUND HERE!! Why do the evil husbands of housewives in these movies always say this? I guess it's to intentionally trigger the intended audience of these movies lol. I hate how here, though, Kate's husband Chadley or whatever says this and then immediately apologizes - you can tell the movie is trying to shove down our throats that he is ~one of the good ones~ because he possesses like one percent emotional intelligence and knows it's wrong to shout rude comments at your weird, mentally disordered wife (or also a normal wife if that exists). But my thing is: why fix your lips to even say this to begin with? Brandley is the type to view having a housewife as a status symbol: he wants it to appear that he is doing well enough that his wife doesn't have to work and that's how they have it set up so what's the problem? I'm not going to think he's husband of the year or some prize Kate needs to be going crazy over just because he said sorry because he shoulda never said it to begin with but maybe I'm too strict *stares*

Yuck, after Kate and Greg have their big fight over how sexy and girlboss Miss Monica is, he completely switches into horny mood out of nowhere and starts talking about how he wants to snatch Kate's robe off yuck yuck yuck she probably purges in that thing please next scene, next scene!!

I'm the black guy in the cool shirt like honey what is this #CHOP

What's this weird Free Mason ass ceremony they got Kate's daughter doing in the movie? Honestly the movie isn't about her and Gen Xers are so comically irrelevant like let's just not even address this. They used to it, it's fine

Kate passes out during her exercise class and misses her daughter's Free Mason ceremony. I think she was supposed to pick her husband up so they could both go to the ceremony together? She calls her man up at work to apologize and he is just blasting into her after she tells him she got sick. I wondered if there was something I was missing. Kate passed out at her exercise class and he shows absolutely zero concern for her health/wellbeing. He's not like omg bae are you okay, he's just grouchy and irritated and yelling at her about pushing herself too hard. I was flummoxed. Do you not care about your wife? If my partner called me telling me they passed out I would be a wreck probably, I would ask if they were at the hospital or doctor's. I don't understand his total lack of concern, he's just pissed he missed a lunch date with sexy Monica and some clients? What if your wife has like a brain tumor or something do you even give a shit? And then he just hangs up on her as she's speaking and Kate's goofy ass has to pretend in front of Gail like they ended the phone call in a civil loving manner. The vibes are so rotted and the emotional supoort is basically nonexistent, no wonder Kate's been slowly killing herself basically since childhood.

Kate rolls up to her daughter's ceremony after it's already over and is acting all apologetic. Like I would say one sorry at best. She literally PASSED OUT. Why is the movie acting like she went and had a crack bender or something and that's why she couldn't make it to her daughter's event? Like does anyone care that Kate is sick lol wtf

Shocker of the century: quite literally an hour or so after passing out at her exercise class, Kate gets into a car to drive her daughter home and omg PASSES OUT AGAIN. It's not like she didn't go to the hospital after passing out the first time to get herself checked out--OH WAIT!! She just straight up does not get herself looked at after passing out at the class and for some reason thinks she's good to get behind the wheel and drive herself and a small child home we don't even see this trick try to eat something to make sure her sugar is on the level like what the fuck am I watching the eighties were WILD

Why does the doctor yank the curtain open like that in this scene? I'm bout to get pissed off again...

When I initially watched this scene at first I thought the doc would be sympathetic and it'd be this revelatory moment for Kate and she'd get to kind of just breakdown and confess her issues in this safe space under care of a physician that was going to finally get her some help. But no, "Are you bulimic?" turns into a nasty accusation and the doc straight up says something like "If you're going to kill urself, do it on your own time not in my hospital", which I thought was PSYCHOTIC and totally deranged and evil and completely inappropriate like who are you talking to?? I thought doctors wanted to help those that are sick??? The doc clearly knows what bulimia is, so he knows it's a sickness? Why is he acting like Kate is some silly teenager playing a dumb prank and taking up space in his ER? What kind of way is this to treat any patient??? I was so like aghast watching this scene and how hateful and angry and aggressive the doctor was, but honestly it's probably real as hell for a lot of physicians to behave this way even today but especially for the eighties. I wasn't alive during the eighties but I've always viewed it as probably one of the most evil eras in the history of the universe. So maybe this scene was a real snapshot into what a bulimia patient might experience if they were to end up in the care of a public hospital during this time

????????????????????????????

Of course the psychiatrist that rolls up to ~help~ (involuntarily commit her) is an old ass yt man *sighs*

Okay...fair's fair, I suppose

This scene was so harrowing. It was giving "Give my daughter the shot!" type energy. Well, a bit.

The doc spills tea to Kate's husband about her being bulimic (not sure if this is legal?) and the husband is like totally disguted and has a reaction like he's never heard the word bulimia in his life and then asks Kate if she's been doing bulimia in front of their daughter (ok fair question I guess?...) and then also asks her if she was doing bulimia in the car while driving with their daughter and is that why she had her accident? Sir, are you stupid? Are you asking your wife if she was intentionaly vomiting while driving a car with your child in it? How would that even work wtf are you even saying? Just slow, like how are you even alive let alone an attorney. And AGAIN he seems to be showing almost zero concern for his wife's health and safety. You just found out your wife is severely ill and you start...shouting at her? Hmm, yeah, that should do the trick! Dang idiot.

Mannnn, shut the fuck up!

So Kate gets carted away to the looney bin. At the treatment center, it seems during meal times they intentionally mess with the patients' meals, I guess as a way to get them to confront their triggers? Like one patient is complaining she never has enough mustard, another has a fork obsession, etc. I thought that was...curious. Something about that gave Nazi doctor vibes, TO ME. Like it's giving experimenting on test subjects teas, but what do I (an ignoramus) know?

Chandler comes and visits Kate at the treatment center and they have a scene where she apologizes to him for...hurting him? I guess cuz he was pissed she didn't tell him about her eating disorder. Um, that kinda just comes with the illness? I get she loves him or whatever and is trying to be a good wife but why does she need to apologize? It's just strange, like the main one suffering here is Kate but they keep having her apologizing to people, like is this a part of her treatment plan? She just seems to be wracked with guilt over the thought she's hurt loved ones and I don't see how that can be helping her in any way but alright

This greaser was being mean to a rich model during group therapy, talking about she hates rich people and can't relate to them and doesn't care about their struggles, which #REAL, but...the person she was berating was literally being exploited by her mother and had been since she was a child and definitely wasn't living no type of silver spoon lifestyle at all, so there was a lot of misplaced anger and projection going on and lowkey the group therapy scenes gave BIG acting class exercise energy, but you know what it was entertaining (am I supposed to be prioritizing being entertained idk the subject matter of the movie is pretty serious lol)

Ooop! The greaser gagged Kate with this one. I honestly feel like, lock her up 48hrs alone with Kate and she could fix her. I genuinely wonder why the greaser was even at the ED center lol? She didn't seem the type which I know is offensive to say but it was giving big time undercover informant 21 Jump Street energy but like why would they even have or need that at an ed treatment facility lol

Bloop! Get her again! But why is this demented patient taking control of the meeting instead of the literal psychiatrist that's being paid to do this??

Bloop! Love how this lady telling Kate she's been trying to eat away her pain was quite literally the first time Kate had ever considered that she even had pain. Ma'am, you're middle aged. Like it's really crazy she never once thought hey why the fuck am I bingeing and purging it must be because I am so quirky or something like she never once thought something was severely damaged inside of her, or maybe she did but like only on a deep subconscious level but again I ask why this greaser seems to have the drop on everyone and everything?? I am convinced she is there undercover and doing like a horrendous job of concealing her true identity lol you're supposed to be blending in but ok

#Me #Aquarians

Quite literally ME!! #whenisitgonnaend

This lady in group starts spilling about how much all the other girls make her feel like shit because they're so psycho-focused to the point of destroying their health and lives just so they never have even a slim chance of ever having to look like her. It was real as hell and of course we don't really get anywhere with the convo. The skinny model is like Girl I don't hate you for being fat, I hate MYSELF because I already think I'm as fat as you ARE! I could never hate you because I already hate MYSELF. Like huh and that's almost verbatim what someone says to this character I'm not joking

The way I was excited here thinking Kate verbally admitting she binges/purges was some sort of massive breakthrough moment. But it was only the beginning on the way to the beginning like oh this is going to be a long road unfortunately

LMAO!!! I feel bad for laughing but why tf did they have this moment of the greaser slow clapping after Kate admitted she sticks her fingers down her throat to throw up??? The eighties were the biggest mistake my GOD

Is Gail stupid? (YES) She looks at a poster of the model character Patch and says "Wouldn't you just die (FORESHADOWIING!!!!!) to be this skinny?". Are you the dumbest bitch on Earth? She's saying this about a model who's currently a patient at an eating disorder treatment clinic. Someone literally already killing herself to look like that. And then the dumb bitch is like "I guess I said the wrong thing, huh?". At this point it's giving purposely obtuse and I wouldn't be surprised if she was a part of some sort of evil coven whose express purpose it is to install stupid bitches in Kate's life to say nothing but nonsense, idiotic shit to her, filling her life with oppressive, incoherent noise so she can never focus and really thrive as a human being because at this point nothing else is making sense

Gail babbles nothing but nonsense stupid shit the entire time she's visiting with Kate at the treatment center. At one point she suggests that she thinks Kate faked (?) her eating disorder just to use it as an excuse to escape from her mother?????? She doesn't even really make it seem like she's joking when she says it either? I don't even know what to say and Kate never addresses that this might be a problematic person in her life so this horrible woman will just keep being there as she's always been even after Kate is released from the program which is JUST GREAT :)

That's literally your only purpose. Can you even imagine Gail at home alone? Like what does it look like for Gail when there's no one else around for her to spew gossip at? I just imagine her standing in a dark, empty home like a turned-off vaccuum staring without seeing into total black nothingness <3

Gail says it hurts her that Kate felt she couldn't come to her about her bulimia business. Be serious, bitch.

Gail trying to absolve herself of guilt by verbalizing she feels partly responsible for Kate's predicament, knowing Kate will rush to insist there's no truth to her suspicions and that Gail is a totally innocent baby who has never done anything wrong ever not even once. The fact that this movie has Kate repeatedly apologize to all the evil people in her life, none of whom Kate felt safe going to with her problems, is deeply and truly sinister

I knew when Patch was up on the roof trauma-dumping about her father molesting her that she was NOT going to make it out of this movie alive smh

Well, you are responsible, so... Like there's maybe a 1% chance Patch would've ended up as a dead bulimic if she had a normal, loving mother, so...like what do you want us to say?...

Didn't you put the blame squarely on your daughter's shoulders after her father abandoned the family? I guess that doesn't really factor into anything...

The Fat One's husband just straight up calling her slurs during the family group session. It gets to a cartoonish point...

Chadley having to drag Kate's mama was CRAZY. Kate almost died at the second (ENOUGH!!) party they had celebrating Brant's (?) promotion (??). Like it was very touch and go and it was not clear if Kate would be alright and instead of Kate's mama being like omg is my daughter okay she jumps to worrying about Bradley and saying shit like "I can't believe she would do this to you", you know, instead of inquiring if her daughter is going to fucking live or not. Just insanity and definitely one of the moments that made me think she didn't really care about Kate like that, like I get she's old and a dumb fuck but the total lack of empathy and concern shown for her child was deranged

RIP #BigPatch. It should've been your mom and dad :'(

This scene was messed up but I think I liked the acting here, you could see Kate regress to being a child which was supremely chilling but maybe on a more positive note a real breakthrough for the character, though in real life probably not :/

Oh... :( #killkate'smama

HATED seeing Kate absolve her mom for her situation. Yes, I know Kate is grown and responsible for her mental health, but no to totally letting her mom off the hook. I hate when they do this in basically everything. The parents were always just ~doing the best they could~. Mind you that isn't true like most of the time. It's not their "best" at all, they prioritized their bullshit and refusal to better themselves over taking care of their child properly so let's dead that narrative.

Her "best" almost killed you but alright

This bitch stays talking about how she didn't have a man. Can you come up with something else? Like if it was really all that why she aint go out and get Kate a stepdaddy like stop talking about that!!

THANK YOU!!!!! Wait, this almost made me cry tho :(

Wait this genuinely made me get a little tear in my eye. It was giving Sally Field at the Oscars except slightly more pathetic. Why they got me feeling emotional over Kate's piece of shit terrible mother :'(

The movie ends with Kate and her momma kissing each other full-blown on the lips??... #whitepeople